It’s a Fact: Alcohol Fuel Can Help Offset Peak Oil

October 5, 2007 at 10:15 pm 8 comments

Ethanol VS Oil

Ok folks… here it is, the ultimate truth. There are people coming out right now saying that biofuels can’t offset the dangers of Peak Oil and I call BS. Lies Lies Lies to keep oil going as long as possible, and we don’t have time to mess around anymore – there is a real danger to America without smart solutions getting implemented right now. Take a look at this video of David Blume educating local news man Wayne Garcia.

Quite the brave newscaster to allow the truth to come out in the mainstream media! Expect the nay-sayers to try and convince you that we can’t overcome our challenges. See for yourself how we can do it and get Alcohol Can Be A Gas!

If you want to stop whining about rising gas prices, pick up your copy of “Alcohol Can Be A Gas” by clicking here.

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  • 1. Mark  |  October 6, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    What about Peak Natural Gas?
    Peak Coal (ca. 2020)?
    Peak Fish (passed that point in many fisheries)
    Peak Timber
    Peak Minerals
    Peak Everything

    Alcohol will work on a small or medium scale, but replacing all of the world’s internal combustion engines — with what? Where’s the feedstock going to come from if not from food? Clearcutting forests even faster? There’s no free lunch.

    200 million cars plus the aviation system plus delivery trucks and freight trains and ocean freighters is a lot of consumption to displace. There are lots of solutions that work well on a small scale but there’s not enough arable land for any form of biofuel to completely replace use of fossil fuels. This is a reason why we’re going to have to radically scale back overconsumption, but our monetary system is based on exponential growth so this is going to be a huge problem.

    97 “quads” is such an enormous amount of energy that most people can’t even conceive of it.

    The idea that talking about energy flows is a scam to keep the oil system going is bizarre and inaccurate.

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  • 2. Stephen Cataldo  |  October 6, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    I don’t understand what you’re saying about peak oil being “Lies” to keep the oil industry going as long as possible. Who is lying, and why? My analysis is that a belief in peak oil (whether oil prices go up in the future or not, but if people/investors believe they will) will make investors more likely to fund alternatives that won’t be profitable unless oil gets more expensive. So you’ll see more wind, solar, alcohol, etc. by investors and politicians who expect oil > $100/barrel. Then whether or not the Peak happens, oil will have more competition and a slightly lower price. I’d be interested to see other perspectives or descriptions of what is motivating different groups — thanks!

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  • 3. peakoilboy  |  October 6, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    Food VS Fuel is a myth. There are plenty of feedstocks that aren’t food such as Cat Tails, Kelp and Mesquite to work ourselves through Peak Oil… I would like to see your science saying otherwise.

    They are beating Peak Oil in Brazil. We can do it here.

    I hope you will study what needs to be studied… there are lots of opportunities for people who want to take action rather than naysaying.

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  • 4. black_mamba  |  October 17, 2007 at 5:18 am

    Is this gonna Kill You? No i Dont Think so !

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  • 5. Andy in San Diego  |  October 30, 2007 at 9:22 am

    I try to read everything I can, and I’d like to read this book, but in the first excerpt supposedly debunking the myth about EROEI, the author says oil has a negative EROEI. That pretty much blows the credibility of the book right there for me.

    The food vs. fuel argument is not that the corn that I was going to eat is going to be used to make ethanol instead. It is that the land and other resources that were going to be used to grow the food that I was going to eat is instead going to be used to grow crops for ethanol. It doesn’t matter if the crops are human edible or not.

    Now if land that cannot be used to grow crops for human consumption (or cattle grazing or whatever) is used to produce ethanol, that goes in favor of your argument.

    And, sorry to comment without watching the video, but I can’t access it right now. Maybe it already makes these points…

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  • 6. peakoilboy  |  October 30, 2007 at 11:13 am

    Andy my friend.. you are SO close to understanding the reality of what can be done about Peak Oil.

    I know that in San Fran there is popular support against biofuels, but as long as you are open to the facts, you will be greatly relieved to know that we can certainly overcome the issue of our day.

    Now, whether it happens is if there are enough people with capital to invest to fix the problem. It won’t be a grassroots revolution that overcomes it, people just aren’t educated enough yet.

    That’s our job and you would be a fine addition to the alcohol fuel movement… write back to me after you have read Dave’s book and tell me what you think then.

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  • 7. dw  |  November 4, 2007 at 10:23 pm

    very few biofuel advocates mention the problem of fresh water, or the lack thereof. Places like Atlanta are suffering severe droughts. What would help the most is changing the zoning laws-make communities walkable, or at least more diverse within a given area. It’s hard to change what’s been practiced and constructed over the last fifty years…

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  • 8. Mark S  |  May 23, 2008 at 8:45 am

    dw, so you think rearranging our previous investment like you’re playing the role of God in SimCity is a reality-based idea? And the fresh water issue is nothing. Nearly 100% of all crops are rain-fed.

    Andy in San Diego, the oil EROEI comment box in ACBAG was referring to an academic analysis of the aeon-scale bio-geological process which created the oil in the first place, not to extraction economics.

    Gasoline, however, certainly has a negative EROEI when compared to the original oil. But this ofcourse has no practical significance in our space-time context due to the large deposits available; we can happily burn lots of unusable Btus to skim some premium liquid Btus from the crude oil. TANSTAAFL, eh. A better example would be coal-to-liquids and gas-to-liquids EROEI: both can be converted directly to motor fuel/energy more efficiently than the wasteful legacy fuel processing (CNG engines for natural gas and plug-in hybrid electric for coal electricity). This is one of the arguments used against corn biofuel; that the original “gasoline equivalents” inputs could have provided more fuel energy if used directly rather than going through a biomass-to-liquids conversion process. A silly argument when refined gasoline and diesel is such a tiny input into the process.

    Fossil fuel appears energy positive because we just mine more hydrocarbons to replace the ones we use up. A hydrocarbon deposit has never made a new hydrocarbon deposit but merely allowed us to draw down our trust fund inheritance.

    Solar energy has, however, made brand new fuel for us, body and machine, every daylight hour. Any discussion of ultimate EROEI involves discussion of the sun star going supernova so let’s not go there just yet.

    Mark, different Mark, primary productivity of our ecosphere in the form of wind, hydro and biosolar dwarfs any needs even 100 billion people could have on the planet Earth. Most energy (action and work) now is wasted. This aint hyperbole. It’s mostly all waste. We’re being Royally G.R.U.N.C.H.ed.

    Mark, different from the first-post Mark. I’ll use Mark S from now on.

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